Answer each bulleted prompt and then respond to two of your peers' comments. This is a total of 10 posts of 5-7 sentences each. There should be enough time to finish the assignment in class, but the remainder may be completed as homework if you run short on time.
In Generation Seen as Colorblind, Black Is Yet a Factor
- What is significance of the sentiments about Senator Obama being expressed on a college campus?
- What does the following excerpt from the article indicate to you about the culture on the campus of the University of Kentucky:
“I might have heard something like that,” he said.
Asked if what he had heard was hard to talk about, Mr. Osborne stopped talking altogether and simply nodded, looking miserable.
- Pick out one significant quote or point of interest from the article and discuss it in a post.
For Some, Uncertainty Starts at Racial Identity
- How might the interviewees referencing the Bible in his statement relate to their ideology
- How does this impact your evaluation of their statements?
- Looking at Mr. Reynold's statements on race, provide an analysis:
“I would think of him as I would of another of mixed race,” said Glenn Reynolds, 74, a retired textile worker in Martinsville, Va., and a former supervisor at a Goodyear plant. “God taught the children of Israel not to intermarry. You should be proud of what you are, and not intermarry.”
Mr. Reynolds, standing outside a Kroger grocery store, described Mr. Obama as a “real charismatic person, in that he’s the type of person you can’t really hate, but you don’t really trust.”
- Based on the first part of the statement, how believable is the second part? Explain.
- Pick out one significant quote or point of interest from the article and discuss it in a post.
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There are many racist people in the world, who are not opened or should I say, "Not ready" to elect a black president. In a college campus, there are more racial differences going on, and many different opinions to be made in a college. What I think it's important to have such opinions in a college campus, is because the diversity of one campus can set standards for all campus's. If a campus (i.e. New Jersey City University) has many different racial backgrounds, then it's more likely to have alot more opinions and open mindness to electing Obama for president. If you have campus's such as The University of Kentucky, who is only 9% black, of course your heading to a one route answer saying, black president is a no no.
In the article, a black student named Kanetha Mack who is just part of 9% of the black culture in the University of Kentucky expresses of how UOK, is not ready for a black president. She also explains how the student body is just used the fact of a white christian man and how a black president, let alone a black person, doesn't view the same points of what America should be like in the eye of a white person.
i feel its a good thing that people are discussion the possibilty that obama may become our next president. most of the populations concern is his race i feel that its horrible that we are looking at one persons race,rather than looking at what he has to give to our country.it just shows that people at times can be so closed minded especially because of one persons skin tone. maybe the discusssion on campus can help student realise that a persons skin tone doesnt make who you truely are.
Today we say america isn't racist, this election is a perfect example that we still are. Many college students stated racial comments about Senator Obama. "...Obama presidency that suggested the Wghite House would become "more ghetto" with "barbecues on the front lawn." (University of Cincinnati). As the article stated our generation is "colorblind", especially in college we become more openminded, I was surprised reading the comments because if we were those things wouldn't be said.
What is being expressed on the campus is important to them because they believe that he is not capable of running this country. Since he is black, they are not willing to vote. They feel as though he may not be smart enough or just as smart as Senator John MCcain because he is white and obama is not.In my opinion I also believe based on the article that the students are concerned about having a black or interacial president to run this country. According to the article it was stated that Obama is going to bring the "ghetto". Therefore they believe there life is going to change as well.
it just shows that people can be so racist no mattew the if the times has changed our not. we no longer live in a world or segratgation yet people are still trying to make it that way. this really shows how close minded people are and how there still living in the past.
The significance of the sentiments about Senator Obama being expressed on a college campus is that he is far more popular among younger voters. Senator Obama is popular among younger voters because the younger generation doesn't feel that a black or biracial president cannot take on the responsibilty of making the United States a better place. With younger voters they view the world differently because of all the interacial experiences that take place for instance, school, jobs, sports and friendships.I do believe that some adults do not agree with Obama being president because some adults are "Traditional " believing that a traditional way for running a country will be if there is a white christian man.
One quote that actually got me thinking would have to be the last statement made of the article
"I don't have any problem with a black president," he said. "I think it would be fine, because a lot of things people stereotype black people with, I don't think Obama has any of them."
A quote made like that surprised to really thinking which side Obama is in. I consider him human, but if I had to pick a side for him, I would most likely pick black for him. The quote I just put up questions his racial status, but from what we all know, He's black
By the way, I'm all for Obama 08!
I believe that the culture backround of the campus based on the quote is that this campus is racial. They believe that black people or interacial people don't have the same rights as white people.They cannot see this country being runned by a black president. When Mr. Osborne was being interviewed and said that" he might of heard something like that", it was already discussed by students and many of them probably agreed on the fact that there should not be a black president.
I agree with Tania, this election is a perfect example of how we are still racist. Alot of people doubt Obama about being our next president because he is African-American. Even though people say hes going to bring the "ghetto", i think hes going to run this country just fine. Alot of people think MCcain has more of an idea of how to run a country because he is white. People still matter till today about what race the president is and its a shame.
" its in the bible, come as one, dont create other breeds."
i think this is one of the stupidist comments i ever read. how many people truely fallow every little word the bible states. the bible was writen thousands of years ago and all storys were told threw the word of mouth.so if a person is truely going to listen to the bible and quote it i do hope they fallow every word, from turning the other cheek to who ever is truely innocent of sin can cast the first stone, yet with that statement no one has any right to cast any stone cause we all live in sin each and ever day. that statement is quite ridiciously if u ask me.
I agree with Claudio20 to an extent. The fact that the article did state of Senator Obama bringing the ghetto to the white house was very uncalled for. However, there were also statements made of Senator Obama not really taking part in coming from a ghetto community, or even taking place of being in a black community. People were just raised by judging a person by the color of there skin, clothes they wear, and languages they speak.
We can't help beut understand that we live in a world that is still racist.We that said it is obvious that that the University of Kentucky which is notoriously known for being racist believe Obama is not the right candiate for the job.This is due to the fact that 90% of the school is white.Now if you go to a all black colleges that not we be the same againest Mccain.I just simply dont see a answer to this.People need to get over the fact of race and see what candiate is better suit for the job.
What the University Of Kentucky
designates to me is that its caught up in looking at race rather than looking further and seeing a possible good leader for america.
By the way Mccain all the way 08!!!!!!!!!
I believe that the the college campuses is showing an act towards racism. If they weren't it wouldn't matter what skin tone Barack Obama had. I believe they believe that he cannot run this country because he's black and he would bring the ghetto along with him. He's part white why cant that count. Tell me what McCain can bring to this country that Obama cant. Before you make judgement on a person see what change can do.
The culture on the campus of the University of Kentucky is that majority of the students are white and 9% black." People don't want him to be president, because America's used to a white christian man. And he's black, so they're going to sit up there and try to make it seem like he's something that America doesn't want." said Kanetha Mack. The University of Kentucky reveals a lot of ignorance towards what the United States really needs.
In the article, quote,"I don't think anyone who is colorblind would make a comment like that", this actually has a point. If a person was indeed color blind, they would not be able to tell the difference between a white or a black person based on the skin. People judge someone by the color of the skin.If hes black, he is "ghetto" or as the article says "making barbaques in the front lawn". If he's white, he is smart.These campus is judging Obama by his color instead of focusing on if he got what it takes to be our next president, and resolve our country issues. If these students were colorblind they would look at it very differently. Therefore it wouldnt matter what backround the Senator came from. They will actually go for who will make the change in this country.
I agree with Tania with the quote of America being rasicst. She is correct of saying how many people's true color show up in this year's election. Although we have some supporters of Obama, there are still many more people who believe that a white man should run the states. Even though Senator Obama says "Change" a lot, he is right in some cases, where America should be ready for change.
i agree wit kleber 100% obama i just like every other human in this world, if he gets cut he will bleed the same color as a white person. he will acknoledge that he is black and if he does state that than thats what he believes in he is still a human, i must add that his skin tone or what he acknowledges his race is he has great ideas and he will help better our country.. OBAMA 08!!!
"It would be interesting to consider if Barack Obama had the same credentials but was John Smith, a white guy from Texas, that he would be in the same position to run." This quote surprised me and questioned this election. Would this election be such a big deal if he wasn't black? I've spoken to many Republican supporters who have crossed to the Democratic side because as many say "america needs a change."
I disagree with carlos. I believe that Obama should be our next president for 2008. It is time for some change in this country. I believe Obama has what it takes to be our next president. He is very smart, and he supports the minorites as well.
i agree with carlos to an extent we can help or try to help living in a world who still puts a person skin tone firt, but i do agree that if they took a census at majority black university the statistics might actully favor obam rather than mccain.
I believe that this quote means that there should not be any black president. This is what I feel was discussed among the students on the college campus. When they say America is used to a white Christian man that sounds pretty stupid. I feel why let history repeat itself. Why not give history a change and give Obama a chance.
I agree with Kleber, many people are still close minded. Its important to take colleges with different backgrounds to get more opinions arcoss. However, statistics state that most of Obama's supporters are youth.
The significance is that Senator Obama is discuss more at the college with students of today because more concerns arise about the presidency then ever considering a black senator is running for president. Obama has capture the attention on so many young voter in colleges because they feel that a black man can't or is not qualified to run this country. Because of the different nationalities the colleges have the whites feel that Obama doesn't have the qualification to become the president, because he's black they feel that he can't make the necessary changes and that he will be ghetto. The sterotype as black being ghetto has been around for decades, but as a human being he deserves a chance to prove if he's fit for the job and not to base his color as a default on he intelligence.
I would say that the us is still racial almost everyone is concerned about obama being black instead of what he has to offer. Just because amereicans are so used to having a white man as a president. I would say almost evryone is voting toward race as most colleges in this article are.
In the article For some, Uncertainly Starts at Racial Identity there was a quote towards Obama that said " Mr. Obama as a "real charismatic person, in that he's the type of person you can't really hate, but you don't really trust." I believe that this was definently an interesting comment made in the article because people automatically judge and critize someone because the color of their skin or, the history placed in a text book. Mr. Reynolds 74, a retired texile worker in Martinsville Va. feels that Obama isn't someone you can hate. The way I interpreted that statement was that because Mr. Obama is doing something positive for the United States that you can't really hate someone with good intentions. Then Mr. Reynolds stated but, you don't really trust. By that he meant that because he is a black man or biracial man that he can say anything to get elected and that you can't really trust any of his decision makings. I find this to be very racial and close-minded.
I believe that the interviewer put the Bible as a reference to this situation because they believe that Obama isn't white or black. According to the article,in the bible it says "come as one". In other words lets join together. All nationalites and races, becoming one nation,setting aside the differences in color. They see Obama as that leader who can bring this nation together.
i seriously think that if a person is going to quote the bible they better be reiigious to the extreme because people seriously dont ever take the bible seriously nor listen to it unless it sounds good or benifits them. anyone who will quote the bible during this election should know that both topics [religion & politics] shold never and will never coinside because politics is very corrupt and religion isnt. plus everyone knows you should never take the bible litterly yet look deep for the meaning of each passage
I agree with Kleber if there were many different racial backgrounds, than opinions on this election will be more open minded. This way you can hear different views from everyone. It would not be that the population is largely white and and the minority is black. Of course if the population is this way they're going to automatically go along with McCain.
In my opinion, referencing the bible would indicate that Obama is religious. I don't exactly know in where his beliefs stand, but what I do know is that the bible can tell you anything. I'm a christian, and I believe what the bible says. However although I do agree in what the bible states, I don't believe it is necessary to bring religious beliefs and quotes from the bible. It just causes confusion and also fights in many religious beliefs. America has many different catagory's in God, and bringing God into the election would cause major dilemma.
i agree with claudio , its time for a change. We need some changing in this country for the better. i would like to see this country be lead by a great leader, and thats what this country needs, a great leader. Obama would direct this country in a possitve way, and its time for a change.
I agree with Claudio we should go with who can make chang for our country. Like she said how come if he's white he's smart and if he's black he dont have the brains. Look at our president now he was a "smart man" and look how our country is falling. They say Obama is for change so why not give him a chance and let him make a change.
i dont agree with mr. reynolds at all i feel his reasoning torwards obama is basicly wrong and unjust hes problem wit obama is his race so it really shows how close minded he is. he is quoten the bible and how inter-racial marriage is wrong yet in past articles it shows how people have more than one race in them if they knew it or not.
The problem is that Obama is not the right candiate for the job.Nobody even care when Kerry run against Bush in 04.We had the same problems than why not rallied behind him?The answer is simple no one care Kerry.He was old,boring and and had no youth or black support simply resulting in Bush winning that election easily.America loves entertainment,the new,the exciting,which is what Obama brings to the table.Never before is there a black candiate so close.He is winning this election due to the fact for the tv ads and rappers,singers,actors that will admire that have no idea about poltics that support him.It like a fad his the hot topic so everybody jumps on the bangwagon without questioning.Please!!!Where were they in 04?Where was the support at?Now all of a sudden people started to care.All the blacks and youth which when no where to be found in 04 now see a change.He is unexperienced compare to Mccain 20 plus years in the senate.The economy is going to suffer regardless for a few years and the war?Lets just say Iran is coming and there no getting out of that.Since this will be the case why not vote for a POW than a Candiate that never been in war.Open your eyes people!!!!!!!
P.S-Am not voting simply because I dont belive in this country but if I had to choose it would be Mccain.
Based on the interviewer's statement, he believes that we shouldn't be separated because of skin color.We shouldn't judge because of skin color. That does not define a person. It was well said when they referred this situation by the bible because if we stopped judging each other because what race we are from, we can actually become one, just as th bible says.
There is one bible and everyone who reads it inteprets it differently which leaads to the reason on why we have many different religions and their beliefs. Glenn Reynolds believes that the bible states that you should be proud of what you are and not intermarry. His perspective on the bible is not wrong because he is definently entitled to his own opinion but, stating the bible in the article and expressing to the readers that intermarry is wrong is definently intefering with ones own beliefs.
I agree with amanda, we have diffrent beliefs and diffrent interpretations of the bible. One person may understand it as one way while another may see it as something completly diffrent and we all have our opinions.
I think that the passage express how only 9% at this university is black and the majority is white how they feel the country is used to presidents being white and how Obama is not right for the job. Racism still occurres in this time although a qualified man is running for presidency and willing to make change but because he black people are letting this get in his way. If he was running with a white mask on and answering all your question/debates and you believed in him will he qualified for a president then?
The thing that stood out most to me was when Galarza said he overheard the White House would become more ghetto with barbecues on the front lawn. I feel that if that's how Obama feel he want to have his parties so be it. I guarantee you if McCain felt he wanted to have a barbecue on the front lawn there will be no negative comments made.
Back to the topic.. the reason why Mr osborne look misareble is due to the fact that he wouldn't like Obama as president.This is the way he was raise.Down south is extremely racists personally living there I could say that.Now he is not to blame because his parents were raise like that and his grandparents too.He college is 90% white and all for all his life that all his knows.He is completely wrong for thinking like that but I"ll gave you a example,if all your life 2+1=4 and you were thought to believe that that is the right answer,now when someone challenge that you will questioned,defend,or even not belive you.Since he was raised all his life like this he is going to believe what he learned no someone else opinion.
Looking at Mr.Reynold's statement on race, he is basically comparing his vote for Obama and his belief that god teached his children not to intermarry. He is trying to say that if he was to vote for Obama, he would be showing that he is not proud for who he is, since he looks at Obama as a mixed race. Voting for Obama in his opinion would be supporting a race that is not his own, which he is very proud of his race.
My opinion of bring religion into play has been said in my earlier comment. Bringing God into a game of election is not right.
Mr. Reynolds doesn't know what he's talking about. Even if my opinion doesn't count, people are still intermarry (marrying different people). It really doesnt matter no a days of where you come from, it just matters of who you are as a person. Although Mr. Reynolds consider's him to be mixed, he still against intermarry to people. He's just a walking contridiction
Remember the focus of the assignment is to analyze people's language and the text presented, rather than as a soapbox for your chosen candidate.
(However I am pleased that you are motivated to vote in the upcoming election)
I agree with Claudio if you believe in the bible then you will reference the whole situation the correct way. Vote for someone that can make change if he's black or white we should be focusing on how to work together and bring our cultures together and not focusing on our skin colors.
In the article, quote " He's going to tear up the rose bushes and plant a watermelon patch", really suprised me. Its hard to explain what I feel when I hear that kind of approach from someone. It's a very racial comment. I don't understand first we judge each other by skin color, and now we also judge each other by the kind of fruit or plant we grow on the ground. This is very ironic.
Kristen makes a good point-- there are many things in the Bible we could choose to follow... Why not find a more positive idea such as loving your neighbor, rather than a devisive quote?
The reason why there but wars for centuries.Religion.In this case I believe it is out of context putting religion in the election.Mr.Reynolds is out of text in saying that he is mixed,but still againest intermarry to people.That is simply foolish by his part.Everyone is title to there opinion but everyone is intitle to debate it.
This one quote striked me the most in third to last paragraph.
"I've always been against the blacks," said Mr. Rowell, who is in his 70's, recalling how he was arrested for throwing firecrackers in the black section of town. But now that he has three biracial grandchildren- "it was really rough on me"- he said he had "found out they were human beings, too"
How low can a person get with these kind of comments. Mr. Rowell learned the hard way... the really hard way. "found out they were human beings, too" a comment made by Mr. Rowell, showing a people can really be like in situation that come with stereotyping. This shows how america can really be blind.
Jazmine makes a good point-- although the article states that Sen. Obama indentifies himself as Black, people do tend to view him as Black rather than Bi-racial. Why?
To answer Ms. ferrante question, people in America view people by the color of there skin. Yes people tend to hide there feelings, but if a large group is large enough to express there feelings (one by being black or white or asian) then a lot of people tend to come out of there comfort zone, and move on with the crowd
In answering the first question please consider the very nature of academia: what do ideals colleges stand for or against? Is the attitude relected in the article consistant with those ideal?
The Second statement is just as believable as the first. Mr. Reynold, feels that Obama with his words and his speeches he can attract people or have a good personality that would charm. Because Mr.Reynolds is close-minded about this issue, he don't trust Obama because he's not his race. He's black. He feels insecure about having a person out of this race make decisions for the country.
Ahh, good observation about the article not being balanced-- it IS important to note that it is a homgeneous population they are surveying.
Looking at the article comparitivelty, what similarities are there along those line.
Most of the culture in the campus of University of Kentucky 9% is black and majority of the students are white. In that campus they dont think obama is the right candidate because their use to seeing a white man be president. They think a white man has more of an idea of being president than a black man. I think people should think out the box and judge the people who they are not based on the race.
When Reynolds said god taught his children not to intermarry I feel what do this have to do with who is going to be our next president. Besides all you see today is intermarried couples. The second part of his statement when he said Obama look like someone you cant hate but look like someone you cant trust. What is about Obama when looking at him make you feel that he cant be trusted. McCain is just the right person to be trusted. I think that he should have thought about the comment he made before he made it.
I agree with francis. People in this country are so closed-minded. People believe that color still matter, when it does not. Yes, you should be proud of who you are of course but not to the extent that you beleive your race is the best race and disrespect other races. People of all races have the right to be thought positive of, and have the capability for anything even to run this country.
Is it really closed minded or just nature??I see alot of people saying it close minded but again I insist that most of this people where raised like this.This be completely honest your not racist in a way?Maybe you order chinese food and it's taking 45mins to come you problaby say "where is this chinese japaniese whatever he is at?"Isn't that a example of racisism? I believe and it could be harsh but I think everybody even it there know have a little racisim in them.Like a quote I once wrote."don't judge without washing your hands first."
I do undertsand when Amanda said everyone go by one bible and there are different interpretations of it. Why let intermarry relations interfere with whos going to be our next president. That's just like Osborne said that he felt the same way as Reynolds but when he had mixed grandchildren his whole attitude changed. Like he said we are all human. This is how people should look at it in this election instead of looking at skin tones.
I think what Kleber said is true people tend to move which ever way the crowd moves. I believe that's the problem with our society today. Everyone is not open enough to express how they actually feel. If everyone was able to express their true selves I think things will seem to be a lot better. Dont go for Obama becuse all the young people and black voters is on his side. Dont vote for McCain because he's white and thats what your family believe you should do. Do whatever you think is best for you and your country.
The quote that stands out to me most is when James Halsey said Obama is going to tear up the rose bushes and plant a watermelon patch. The reson why it stands out to me most is because I dont understand what he is trying to say, and I wish someone can give me an explanation of this quote. I do think that when he stated this he was trying to be sarcastic.
AFTER ALL OF THIS BLOGGING OBAMA WON HOORAY
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